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Post by Phoenix Rising on Feb 9, 2015 22:46:21 GMT
Since we are done and will be a little bored for a few weeks, I decided to give an analysis of how our went.
Needs going into the Auction: SS, Closer, High K RPs, Bench Bats
Having V-Mart go down with an injury caused us to look for a 1B replacement, we decided to look for someone who qualifies at 1B/OF. We simply don't trust Ike Davis to fill in effectively.
Our goal was to leave ourselves with $3-4M cap room so we don't run into the problems we had last year.
How did we do:
SS - Erick Aybar - We debated on whether to get in the Zobrist sweepstakes but he would have killed our budget. We were able to get Aybar cheap and looking at the stats, he should provide us with comparable numbers to Andrus and Zobrist who were both much more expensive.
Closer - I like the fact that we got Casilla considerably cheaper than the big name closers. We also got Gregerson who is a potential closer. I think we did OK.
RP - We didn't necessarily get the High K guys but Watson and Gregerson should be more than serviceable to get Holds and not hurt us.
Bench Bats - Pearce will give us the 1B/OF player we need at a good price. It will be interesting to see what he can do with a starting gig. Chisenhall is a wild card @ $400K I am willing to roll the dice and hope for the best.
Buerhle is a what you see is what you get type pitcher. We really wanted Parker but didn't want to overspend on him.
All in all, I think we did OK....Time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 23:21:08 GMT
Not sure if you are looking for responses or not?
considering that you were not spending a great deal I think you did pretty well, I can relate with the cap issues and I think it was smart to have kept some in reserves, but wonder if you had spent a bit more of that stash and maybe resisted spending on Gregerson and Watson that you could of added a higher level RP and a 400k guy and been better off, but I cannot disagree that those two will not hurt you and if Gregerson gets saves then you will be doing well. Casilla was a nice get at 2mil for sure.
not a huge Aybar guy, but certainly a far lower salary then Zobrist and Andrus, so not the worst guy to have and he is good for 550 at bats
I owned Buerhle last year and for the first coupel months the guy was money and he always gives you 200 innings so not bad as a bench arm
I considered Chinsenhall as well for the low investment, but Santana has to play and who likes Cleveland anyway.
Love the Pearce pickup, gives you the backup 1b and has OF to boot
Overall considering what you spent overall and the fact that you ended up with quite a few guys in that 1-2 million range I think you did well, wish I had that kinda financial flexibility, next year my cap opens up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 0:28:39 GMT
I resent the Cleveland comment, but I also consider the fact that it's coming from a Sox fan
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Post by Phoenix Rising on Feb 10, 2015 0:46:15 GMT
Responses and feedback are welcome. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 0:49:40 GMT
I think u guys did well all things considering. I was happy to get 4 SP, a catcher in Derek Norris and Aramis, 3 RP, all for 9 mill. We really don't care about holds/saves, so we punt that category, so all in all I was happy with our outcome.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 0:55:33 GMT
I was pretty excited to get Leake for only 2 mill and CC is worth a 1 year risk at 1.25. Also thought Aramis would go for more than 2 mill, so happy about that. Not sold on Panik at this point, so Ramirez was a nice pick up for us.
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Post by Atlanta Crackers on Feb 10, 2015 1:14:32 GMT
Leake and Aramis at the prices you got them were outstanding Cleveland.
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Post by Atlanta Crackers on Feb 10, 2015 1:26:33 GMT
Thoughts on this post-draft group of young guns of a rotation for the next few years?
Andrew Cashner--age 28 Jarred Cosart--age 24 Nathan Eovaldi--age 24 Kyle Hendricks--age 25 Shane Greene--age 26 Joe Kelly--age 26 Drew Smyly--age 25 Drew Pomeranz--age 26 Tony Cingrani--age 25 Jesse Hahn--age 25 Anthony Desclafani--age 24
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 1:53:29 GMT
That's a lot of nice young arms on great contracts. You set yourself up nice assuming that most of those pan out. Nice job out of you
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Post by San Fran Earthquakes on Feb 10, 2015 16:34:23 GMT
Andrew Cashner--age 28 - like Cashner, so long as he stays in SD Jarred Cosart--age 24 - not very high on Cosart. Don't think he'll pan out Nathan Eovaldi--age 24 - I've never as high on Eovaldi as some, but believe he can be a solid mid-rotation arm. But now that he's on the Yankees he's being way overhyped. Comes with the territory I guess. So long as you temper expectations, particularly pitching in the AL East, should be fine Kyle Hendricks--age 25 - Other than Cashner, I think he has one of the higher upside of the group. Solid, especially in 2 years from now when things hopefully start going well in Chicago (but the expectations for this year are WAY overrated - meaning the Cubs in general, not Hendricks) Shane Greene--age 26 - back end of the rotation SP. I'd be surprised if he ends up something more Joe Kelly--age 26 - See Greene. Drew Smyly--age 25 - solid, good potential. Not in the best situation in TB, but who knows where he'll be in a 2 years. Drew Pomeranz--age 26 - I don't know what to make of Pomeranz. As the years tick by, he seems like one of those SPs will a lot of promise but it never clicks. Being in Oakland helps, but I get the sense that if he ever breaks out, it will be after doing a stint in Japan and comes back at the age of 32 and has a few good years ala Vogelsong. Tony Cingrani--age 25 - see Kendricks. Jesse Hahn--age 25 - Decent. probably maxes out as an SP4, so slightly better than Greene, et al Anthony Desclafani--age 24 - see Greene
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Post by Ft. Myers Conquistadors on Feb 10, 2015 16:47:56 GMT
Agree with a lot of what Chad said. Too many question marks and no solid #1 or #2 starter. Cashner is a borderline #2. I do like Eovaldi to become another borderline #2 guy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:28:01 GMT
Seems like a bunch of #3/#4 types other then Cashner, but they are at reasonable prices, add a top of the rotation arm and you would be good to go.
I can't see how Cingrani avoids becoming a bullpen arm, he is just a one trick pony, I do like Smyly, but being in Tampa is not the greatest place for him.
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Post by madisonbillygoats on Feb 10, 2015 18:11:57 GMT
Tucson and Cleveland- I liked your pulls, you got guys that I wanted but was to much of a cheapskate to either keep going or bid at all. Eric, although I agree your short on ace upside and their is a lot of question marks, you have a lot of potential and the numbers. Just look at what Andy did last year and his best pitchers were Livan Hernandez and Hideki Irabu. As far as my draft, lets pretend it's 2010 and not 2015. Crawford, Hardy, Lincecum and Arod for 2.95M. What a haul, seriously though, what year is it?
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