25 players at end of auction

[Deleted]

I would propose that next year we do not have to have 25 players at the end of the auction and that we should be allowed to promote players from minors during the auction or immediately afterwards to fill your 25 man roster.   Not proposing that people can have less for the entire period between auction and opening day, but that there is some time frame where you need to be legal even if it were a day or two after conclusion of auction. 

It seems like it would be nice to see what you could get in the auction and to keep a guy in minors and conversely if you were unable to get a good player in auction that you could then promote a minior afterwards that was a better option.  In our current system you are forced to decide if you want to promote a minor and then if you decide after auction that you probably should of promoted a guy that you are forced to draft aplayer that you will then drop and incur a penalty

[Ft. Myers Conquistadors]

good point

[Oregon Three Lions of Madison]

It's a good point, but to me that is not why people would promote. I called up Bassitt before the draft not because I think he will win a rotation spot, but because it would save me cap space for the auction. I transfer that 500k contract out of my minors and onto my active roster. That makes it so I need one less guy at auction and shave 500k off my minor league books. To me it would be done more for that reason instead of worrying about a 100k drop penalty.

When it comes to the auction I am making things simple. The more complex things are the more confusing it is for guys, and rules can be stretched for reasons not intended. For that reason I would rather do away completely with no bids as well. They are there for similar reasons as you mentioned above Ted, but now I can use no bids to keep guys I actually want off the board in hopes to get them cheaper later on. That is all fine and well, but if we all just start throwing out no bids things I think will get a bit ridiculous. Don't expect anyone to be on board with that, but again, I don't think we need to make things more complex with regards to the auction.

[Deleted]

Not sure how the no bid is relevant to my point, I have no issue with no bids for the reason you stated above, it is an opportunity for you to put players up for bid that you do not want and use up others cap space and roster spots, I would be agasint the loss of no bids, but for the sake of simplicity I can see the argument for it.

My point is about be forced to make a decision before the auction as to who I promote or do not promote, I am only suggesting we have the flexibility during the auction to make a decision on a player like Bassitt on the fly and not have to do it before the auction. You could be in the auction and see that SP options are going for more money then you expected and maybe you should of promoted him and plan to after the auction, but now you need to draft a player you do not want to then cut him later to promote Bassitt and while 100k may not seem like much for some of us it is enough that I would prefer to not give it away. It also is not just about $$, I may be down to my last million dollars and need two players and if I were able to promote Bassitt I could then use that million dollars on one player that was a good value and then I could make that decision.

[Oregon Three Lions of Madison]

I thought I addressed your point as well. Your point is a good one, but will open things up to so it can be used for other purposes than the one you stated. I only added no bids because it relates to my point about keeping things simple during the draft. The more flexibility we allow in the draft, in my opinion, the more we open ourselves up to confusion and possible problems. That is how it is related. I am personally against add/drops, promotions, trading, no bids, etc during the draft. To me all of those things can be used to gain advantages in the auction and will make things a lot more difficult to track. I would rather keep things simple, but again if everyone wants things to be opened up to that's what we will do.

[Deleted]

Fair points, I hate the idea of having to dumbing things down for the sake of simplicity, but at the same time I am not the one dealing with the issues that arise.

[Deleted]

SO we have to have 25 players at end of auction, but do we have to have a legal roster, can I be short a position, but have a 7th bench player and as long as I am legal by opening day I am good??

[Ft. Myers Conquistadors]

you can have 25 catchers if you'd like

[Deleted]

Cool, thanks. I only need 4 or 5, but nice to know I could corner the market if I wanted

[Deleted]

Man there was a ton of great deals this auction

[Deleted]

I understand keeping it simple by not doing "no bids" but I like it. Everyone has to put someone out there in order to bid and if there someone out there that I want and I only have 1 roster space left, then I'd want to put a no bid out there so I can bid on the guy I would rather have. It also brings strategy into because if I don't have enough for the guy I was trying to get, then I can possibly go back and bid on the guy I put out there as a no bid. But I don't want to be penalized because I have to put someone out there and then not being able to get the guy I want. I was able to use no bids effectively in this auction. I definitely would not have gotten the guy I wanted without it. To me, you'd be penalizing the team that's putting up another player and he can't get the guy he wants because I'm stuck with the guy I put out there.

[Oregon Three Lions of Madison]

That is the exact reason the no bid rule was put in place. You could just as easily say if you have one player left to get you don't have to have a nominee out there to bid. I don't have a huge problem with no bids, but there is no way to stop them from being used by anyone at anytime. What I am trying to say is that we started allowing them to combat the problem you mentioned, but that is not why they are actually used for the most part. I guess my thoughts tend to try and look at worst case scenarios. No bids allow me to be reactive rather than proactive in the draft which I could try and use to my advantage. I could sit there and throw out marginal players for no bid just to see if the guys I really want end up falling later in the draft where I can get them cheaper. If everyone employed this strategy the auction would take twice as long. Don't worry though no bids aren't going away.